Today’s Show Recap

Thanks for listening to Makin’ It. On this week’s episode, Tommy and Todd interview two triple-threats: Michael and Amy Port and learn about how brushing up public speaking skills can be a path to success. And, on Makin’ It or Breakin’ it, Tommy and Todd ask: Can appearances make or break a person in business? Let us know what you think of the show in the comments section at the bottom of the page!

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Today on Makin’ It, Tommy and Todd interview Michael and Amy Port, co-founders of Heroic Public Speaking, a business centered on helping people become more comfortable with public speaking and leveraging those tools in life.

Michael and Amy Port have both been professional actors with fine arts degrees. However, when they both found an actor’s life wasn’t for them, as Amy wanted a family and Michael wanted to be the one making things happen, they decided to start up their business. Michael Port has always been interested in business, since he was a teenager and had his own party promoting business. Later, he leveraged that experience to promote clubs.

Michael Port is also a successful author, most notably “Book Yourself Solid” and “Steal the Show,” and he is an on-air communication expert for MSNBC, CNBC and PBS. He also has his own podcast on public speaking and performance called “Steal the Show with Michael Port.”

Michael Port’s book “Stealing the Show” is a must-read for anyone going into the workforce. It teaches that people have to learn and play the right role in any given situation, learning how to shine when the spotlight is on them. And if people don’t learn how to play the right role, they could fall flat on their faces. Michael Port believes the biggest players are often the best performers, and hopefully, they are the most authentic performers also.

Michael and Amy Port’s current project is Heroic Public Speaking, and they have conferences anyone can attend. At the conference, they teach people how to become more comfortable with public speaking. What is notable about their conferences is how comfortable they make audience members when dealing with such an uncomfortable topic. Moreover, many people shy away from getting better at public speaking because it creates more uncomfortable situations. The Ports remove that factor from the equation, creating a safe place and allowing people to feel comfortable feeling uncomfortable.

The Ports believe that public speaking is one of the most important skills a person can develop, which is key reason they built their business. Public speaking isn’t just for people on stage because technically, every time a person speaks to another, it can be considered public speaking.

The Ports’ Heroic Public Speaking was built on the foundation of another project of Michael Port called Book Yourself Solid Worldwide. As they already had a sound audience base, they were able to build on their established reputation. But the true test of the Ports’ mettle wasn’t learning how to speak publicly or teaching public speaking; it was learning the business aspect. They cite running a business as being infinitely harder, but they continue to learn new things every day.

The most important advice the Ports can offer to anyone, especially actors, is to recognize the skills they have and how they are translatable to other markets. True public speaking can become applicable to anything else people do, such as sales pitches and clear communication. It is essential to recognize these skills and capitalize on them wherever possible. What do you think of the Ports? Why do you think knowing how to speak in public is important? Let us know in the comments section. For more information on Heroic Public Speaking, visit

Check out these additional videos from Heroic Public Speaking founders Michael and Amy Port!



Makin’ It or Breakin’ It:

Tommy and Todd end the show with the Makin’ It or Breakin’ It segment. This week they ask the question: Can appearance make or break a person in business? The short answer is yes, absolutely.

When it comes to appearance, especially in sales, it is best to dress for the industry you are selling to. For example, when selling to a construction company, it is best to dress in clean clothes with a construction helmet than it is to wear a three-piece suit.

People do try to say that sex appeal is the most important when it comes to sales; however, it isn’t everything. In fact, hygiene and cleanliness are more important because customers notice these factors. And, while casual dress is becoming more popular, especially in the tech industries, in every scenario, it is always a good idea to be the best-dressed person in the room rather than the worst-dressed person.

While sex appeal isn’t necessarily the most important factor, it is relevant. Unfortunately, studies have been done regarding weight and obesity, and white women are the most affected by these factors. If a white woman is overweight, she may be passed over for promotions and may not make equal salaries.

Finally, public image in the community can also be a factor. A customer would rather invest with a well-dressed banker than a poorly dressed one.

The bottom line is that appearance is important and can ultimately break you. Always be conscious of it. What do you think of appearance in business? Have you ever passed over someone’s services because of how he looked? Have you ever been refused promotions because of how you looked? Let us know in the comments section.

Thanks for tuning in to Makin’ It. Let us know what you think of the show and if you have questions about your business, send us an email at or leave us a comment below. We love to hear from our listeners and we read comments on the air. We just might choose yours for next week’s show (so don’t forget to tune in!).


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